Traded PS3 for H3 edition 360

[JAGPANZER]

Yep, and I don't regret it.
Would rather wait till later this year and get a newer PS3
with the ds3 feedback controllers anywho.
Add to it that the PS3 is about to axe it's backward compatibility with PS2.
(this will further cut it's price)

All in all I got a better machine to enable better XBXLV gaming since
we can have 2 360's playing head to head or networked for team matches.
The military drab green casing looks tight, H3 themed dash, too cool.
If only the Spartan helmet was large enough to fit my skull,
then I could be total HALO nerd. I wonder if my woman would argue
too much about wearing an outfit like Cortana?

H3, HL3, AC6, CoD4, PGR4, BioS; it just keeps getting better.
There is nothing on PS3 now or on the horizon to equal MS' present line up.

Looking very forward to Ninja Gaiden2 and Road Rash(the latter has been
in development now for over a year. It will be the XBXLV poster child as
soon as Sega or whoever cranks the damn thing out).

[Saurgrist]

I agree Jag, the PS3 is completely worthless as a system as compared to the 360 at this time. I'd like both, but the PS3 has NO games out right now, and it's killing it.

[Puppet Master]

Look hard enough. there are plenty of games for it. :p
And honestly, how many 'good' games are there for the 360, other than the obvious bunch that everyone keeps talking about?

[hahamanin]

^^heavenly sword(dont wanna play a god of war kinda game again so soon n i have played this btw)--uncharted drake's fortune--all flashy n kinda good 3rd person shooter but very short n not a game to buy the ps3 for---motorstorm-certainly dont wanna go there again it sucked i hated this game(forza rules,pgr4 rules,dirt rules,flatout rules)---ratchet & clan tools of destruction---well u can call this a very good game---lair-omfg wht a game to play if it was enjoyable---Warhawk--good online game but call of duty 4 & halo 3 came in to destroy the show----upcoming games in 2008 m certainly not interested MGS4(dont want it)but only KILLZONE 2 is what m looking forward too in 2008 but i can always play n finish it on my friends ps3

[JAGPANZER]

Look hard enough. there are plenty of games for it. :p
And honestly, how many 'good' games are there for the 360, other than the obvious bunch that everyone keeps talking about?

Be real PM,
NOW
Assassins Creed, Ace Combat 6, Virtua Fighter 5, Mass Effect,
Bioshock, HL3, H3, PGR4, NFSPS, Forza, CoD4--off the top of my head
not counting the usual mish mash of Madden/NBA/NHL releases.
As well as the Scene It? and GH/RB offerings.
SOON(like next month in DMC's case)
Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden 2, HALO wars, R6:VGS2, World in Conflict,
C&C3:Kanes Wrath, UaW: Earth Assault, TC's: EndWar,
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty(I'm there), Legendary: The Box, Saboteur---
just to name the more anticipated ones.
On a slightly unrelated note, the 360 is backward compatible with most all
of my XBX titles---and they look better than they did on the XBX.
Something that no PS2 game can say played on a PS3.

Nothing in the PS3's lineup or near future offerings seemed to justify
keeping the damn thing. It's controllers don't feedback, the PS2 games
looked largely like hell. It made more sense to ditch it til the version
2.1's with std ds3 controllers hit the shelves later this year.
I already paid enough for the junker only to have to fork out an
additional $120 for two ds3 controllers when they come out.
Add to that that the 6axe controller will be worth next to nothing
when the ds3 is released. $10 off for trade in? Lol, don't think so.
Better to ditch them now, better store credit.
Let some other chump angst over his ill timed purchase.

[hahamanin]

^^thats exactly what i meant to say?

[born2phrag]

I don't think it's fair to include multiplatform games in that list of yours, Jag. As far as 2008 goes, personally, I'm looking forward to MGS4, FFXIII, Killzone 2, GT5 etc. I already have a white dual shock 3, and am loving Time Crisis 4. Got Uncharted and R&C: ToD for xmas, havent gotten around to either of them (been playing Mario Galaxy), so don't have an opinion one way or another.

As far as the thread topic goes, congrats on your trade, glad you're happy with it. I must say, I was more than tempted to get a Halo 360 when I bought Halo 3. Not sure if I've seen any around since they launched, which is a shame.

[Snakelevel100]

H3 edition is the best x360 version for now.why?its less likely to get red ring of death(new version processor).
But one things good for ps3-Linux!

[Ranger57]

I saw the H3 edition, looks cool. I cant get it here =(
PS3 is a waste as I've said somewhere else. Something the 360 has over the PS3 is the compatability and relative stability and I think a better games list. And of course the prices for games and hardware and online capability. What does that leave the PS3 with then you ask? Plenty quite simply, a good system that produces high quality games. The problem is that it comes at a cost games seem to be coming slowly. I think GT5 ( the proper version) is pretty kick ass, looks like it and from playing the tasters. Has no-one here played gears of war?!?! I personally dont reallyl like PGR, simply cos its not in-depth and hard core racer liek I like. Forza is superb though, and I think DOA is way better than anything fighter on PS. Plus the inter-compatability thing with the pc and 360 is wicked awesome.

[born2phrag]

... Something the 360 has over the PS3 is the compatability and relative stability
I'm sorry, but I can't take your post seriously if you think the PS3 is less stable (even relatively) than an XBOX 360! :p

[JAGPANZER]

I dunno, he has a point.

RRoD aside, from start up to beginning
of actual game play the X360 is kinda faster.

The big caveat is the friggin install time on the PS3..wtf? console hello?
Granted if'n the PS3 has already been set up then it's in that kinda zone;
depends on the game and/or the relative game file being loaded.

As well the X360 uses it's Hd in a different manner than the PS3.
My H3 360 has quite a few game save files, mp3's, xbxlv arcade titles,
a South Park or two, mucho gaming DLC and I still got room
on it's paltry 20gig Hd.

Whereas my bro's PS3 has an Hd 4x as big as mine;
he has nowhere near the amount of stuff I do on the 360's
and his Hd is nearly 'full'............... of what?

Stability? I'm not sure what he means.
We've had 360's and PS3's lock up in game.

Online, LIVE trumps PSN, if by stability he means LIVE vs PSN
then that is kinda relevant; as the respective machines are
the only means of accessing those portals.

[born2phrag]

I thought by stability he meant lockups etc. On that basis I'm going by what I've heard... and I've [personally] heard of more stability issues with the X360 than the PS3. To be fair, I have had no problems with either my PS3 or X360 since I bought them. Both consoles are from the UK launch.

Haven't filled up your H3 360 HDD yet? At one point I was down to about 900MB on my old 20GB. I ran straight out and bought the 120GB one, and moved my data straight over. Now I'm sitting pretty, with a little more than 85GB free. Good times. :)

Where does the space on the PS3 HDD go? It goes to those darn mandatory installs. But at least a HDD upgrade for the PS3 doesn't involve a huge price hike by Sony. I can just plag any old 2.5" SATA HDD I have lying around (or go out and buy) and boom! I'm done.

Both consoles have their merits, and letdowns. Neither of them are perfect.

[JAGPANZER]

Yeah, those usuriously priced Hd's are a joke.

MS could unlock it, but I doubt it.
Pffft $135 for a 120 Hd?
Why, do I have a pre-existing balance?
I guess they do hold the initial production cost
against us.

[Guruboy]

JAG, your brother's PS3 needs an installation for a new game and its HDD is full of more data because every single PS3 game in existence (as far as I know) installs game data onto the HDD to cut load times. By a lot.

The BD drive reads quite slowly; the 360's DVD drive is much faster. However, no optical disc will read as fast as an HDD. Since a (small) number of 360s out there don't have a hard drive (and 20GB is simply not enough when dealing with games on a DVD9), this feature has not been implemented in any Xbox 360 title that I know of.

If Microsoft allowed users to install a PC-like operating system (Linux, Windows, maybe a custom 360 one), allowed third-party keyboards, and let anyone install their own HDD, I would buy a 360. Foe realz.

Cheap people buy something because of how useful it is right then. Smart people make an investment with each purchase. It's called future-proof. Blu-Ray is future-proof. The 2008-2009 lineup of PS3 titles is future-proof. The promise of free services like Home and continued free online gaming is future-proof. I'm not saying the 360 is done, I'm saying you should focus on the future, because you seem to want to focus on RIGHT NOW. Remember, a few months ago RIGHT NOW was $100 for an HD DVD player. Yeah I'm glad I didn't jump on that.

I'm definitely not going to argue with you about game titles. Every console out there serves its customers very, very well in terms of games. As far as I'm concerned, 2008 is the year of the PS3. That's what everyone in the industry is saying. 2007 saw most of the great 360 titles you listed. That was the 360's second year. Well, now the PS3 is in its own 2nd year and whether you're interested in the games or not, it's going to put on a hell of a show.

[born2phrag]

J...every single PS3 game in existence (as far as I know) installs game data onto the HDD to cut load times. By a lot.
Devil May Cry takes about as long to load on my PS3 as it does on my friends X360. So it's not always of benefit. Then again, the other side to that is Uncharted. I don't think that game has any loading screens apart from the initial one when you startup the game.

... It's called future-proof. Blu-Ray is future-proof. The 2008-2009 lineup of PS3 titles is future-proof. The promise of free services like Home and continued free online gaming is future-proof. ....
That is an ignorant statement. With technology, nothing is future-proof. Not even bluray... or Home. Hell, not even free services!


...2008 is the year of the PS3. That's what everyone in the industry is saying. 2007 saw most of the great 360 titles you listed. That was the 360's second year. Well, now the PS3 is in its own 2nd year and whether you're interested in the games or not, it's going to put on a hell of a show.
That's down to personal opinion. The 360 still has Gears of War 2, Halo Wars, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake and more. To be fair, I'm looking forward to Metal Gear Solid 4 more than anything else... except maybe GTA IV (which just has to be bought for the 360. Added content FTW!)

[Guruboy]

Devil May Cry takes about as long to load on my PS3 as it does on my friends X360. So it's not always of benefit. Then again, the other side to that is Uncharted. I don't think that game has any loading screens apart from the initial one when you startup the game.

The general consensus after a couple publications said there was a difference and a couple online news sources said otherwise was that, with Devil May Cry 4, the HDD installation makes a difference "later in the game", at least according to Slashgear.


That is an ignorant statement. With technology, nothing is future-proof. Not even bluray... or Home. Hell, not even free services!

Are you telling me that HD DVD is more future-proof and certain to stay relevent than Blu-Ray? I don't think you understand the statement at all, or you're trying to spin it in a direction it wasn't intended to go.


That's down to personal opinion. The 360 still has Gears of War 2, Halo Wars, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake and more. To be fair, I'm looking forward to Metal Gear Solid 4 more than anything else... except maybe GTA IV (which just has to be bought for the 360. Added content FTW!)

Thank you. Which is why I said I wasn't going to argue about games. When it's the personal opinion of everyone in the reporting industry though, it's NOT all about my own personal opinion.

[born2phrag]

The general consensus after a couple publications said there was a difference and a couple online news sources said otherwise was that, with Devil May Cry 4, the HDD installation makes a difference "later in the game", at least according to Slashgear.
I don't care what magazines/online reviews say. To me there was no difference. If there was a difference, maybe I didn't notice it. And if I don't notice it, then [in my opinion] there was no point in me installing any data onto my PS3 HDD. To be fair, I haven't done any side-by-side comparisons. I'm just saying if there was that big of a difference, I would have noticed it.


Are you telling me that HD DVD is more future-proof and certain to stay relevent than Blu-Ray? I don't think you understand the statement at all, or you're trying to spin it in a direction it wasn't intended to go.

No. I'm not saying HD-DVD is future-proof... and I'm not trying to put down the merits of bluray. I'm just saying that no technology is future-proof. Somewhere down the line there is going to be a format better than bluray (or anything else). Then there will be a superior format to that, and so on.

[Ranger57]

What I meant by stability is, ok, how do I explain, uhm, eh, 360 gets all there sh!t working from the beginning, no console revamps or price cuts\increases. No new things to buy just to run your games, and yes from my own experience definitely crashes. And as I said network gaming or online. A friend here has had to take his PS3 in 4times!!!!!!! To get it fixed up, the shop said it had "bugs and old firmware" huh? They had to send it somewhere to fix it, 2 weeks at a time, qutie irritating I can imagine. And that was not the only case. I also heard people having to buy some sort of "chip" to run new games. Any1 know what they could be talking bout? I've had my 360 and not spent on anything other than games.

[born2phrag]

What I meant by stability is, ok, how do I explain, uhm, eh, 360 gets all there sh!t working from the beginning, no console revamps or price cuts\increases. No new things to buy just to run your games, and yes from my own experience definitely crashes. And as I said network gaming or online. A friend here has had to take his PS3 in 4times!!!!!!! To get it fixed up, the shop said it had "bugs and old firmware" huh? They had to send it somewhere to fix it, 2 weeks at a time, qutie irritating I can imagine. And that was not the only case. I also heard people having to buy some sort of "chip" to run new games. Any1 know what they could be talking bout? I've had my 360 and not spent on anything other than games.

A chip to buy new games? I haven't needed to buy anything for my PS3 to play games. I've had to buy things that came with my PS3 that didn't come for the 360. For my 360 I bought the WiFi adapter, play and charge kits, quick charge kits, battery packs, faceplates, 120GB HDD and an HD-DVD addon. Not including games, I've spent on my 360 and its accessories/addons than I have on my PS3 and addons. 360 Console: £280, WiFi: £50, play and charge kit (x2): £15 each, quick charge kit: £20, 2 extra batteries: £10 each, 120GB HDD: £100, HD-DVD: £30, Faceplates: Gears of War - £10 + Hot Rod blue - £4, Halo 3 Pad: £35, Wireless Controller (x2): £30 each, Wired Controller: £20, DVD remote: £20, Hori Joystick: £20. Total: £689.
PS3 Console: £425, Sixaxis: £30, Dual Shock 3: £35, DVD remote: £17, PS2 memory card adapter: £10, Hori Joystick: £30 Total: £547. Quite a difference there. I have Guitar Hero 2 (360) and Time Crisis 4 (PS3) and they came with a guitar and light gun, but I'm not including those :p

If the firmware on your mates PS3 was f!cked, its probably a bad download, or he tried to install the wrong one. Needless to say there are plenty of occasions where the 360 firmware updates have brocked consoles or caused instability for some.

No console revamps for the 360? Bah! Elite, Arcade, Premium, H3 and the now dead Core. 65nm process, new quiter DVD drive. HDMI added. Every console gets a revamp and price cuts. Not sure what you mean by price increase??? I don't think any prices have been increased. At least not in the UK. The will 80GB cost more than the 40GB or 60GB console (when its released over here), but that's to be expected. Likewise the Elite costs more than the Premium and so on.

But complaining about the time it takes to send a console to get repaired is silly. You send anything to get repaired, it will take time for them to get it, repair it, and send it back. Two weeks isn't that bad. I seem to remember Jag saying a while ago that's how long it took him to get his 360 back after it died. Two weeks is nothing. My friend waited nearly a month for his. I remember the aerial connection on a TV I had several years ago was loose. I sent it back to Phillips, took more than a month.

Online gaming is definately superior on the 360. No agruments from me on that point. However, if you're still talking about stability, then there's no instability on my end. Granted the only games I've played online are Resistance, Motorstorm and Pro Evo 2008. I'm sure others have had online instability on both platforms. I remember XBOX Live being down on more than one occasion. Just last week it was down for most of us in Cambridge for some unknown reason. And lets not forget the December/January dowtime. Networks will always go down for everything. Servers crash, its just something we all have to deal with. In some cases a network is the least relaible thing of any service.

[Ranger57]

Ok its clear we live in different countrie. I dont even get nearly half that sh!t over here. I think the problem is really, that both consoles where actually kraper than what they should've been. But as we now know it is actually done deribaletely to make consumers spend more cash.

[FantasyGhost]

What I meant by stability is, ok, how do I explain, uhm, eh, 360 gets all there sh!t working from the beginning, no console revamps or price cuts\increases. No new things to buy just to run your games, and yes from my own experience definitely crashes. And as I said network gaming or online. A friend here has had to take his PS3 in 4times!!!!!!! To get it fixed up, the shop said it had "bugs and old firmware" huh? They had to send it somewhere to fix it, 2 weeks at a time, qutie irritating I can imagine. And that was not the only case. I also heard people having to buy some sort of "chip" to run new games. Any1 know what they could be talking bout? I've had my 360 and not spent on anything other than games.Get your facts straight before posting. If he had to return his PS3 3 times, then it wasn't done by Sony. Seriously, i had to return it once, and they send me a new one back, fully wrapped in a new package. There's no "chip" to buy to play all games. Revamping cutting increasing prices. Let's see the 360 did it too. What about the latest Elite and arcade 360 next to the core/premium ones first? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360

[shinn_asuka07]

i just love 360 but sadly, can't have it now....some tips pls

[born2phrag]

i just love 360 but sadly, can't have it now....some tips pls
Tips? Tips for what? If you want a 360 then save your money and buy one...

[STi FlyBy]

i just love 360 but sadly, can't have it now....some tips pls

There's always the street corner :D