blue screen of death

[BRO DUDE]

lately i have been getting random resets so i turned it to display the blue screen if i get a prob and i have had 2 in the last week
the first was irql_not_less_or_equal
stop: 0x0000000a (etc)

and the otehr 1 i didnt really pay much attention 2 but it was a
stop: 0x00000007 ( i think)

how do i find out what caused it?

i reinstalled XP and formatted not long back and it was all fine then just got them after a month or so.
and havent changed hardware so it cant really be any hardware conflicts can it?

[fdjc4]

LOL!!!!!
google saves my life so man times...heres an interesting linky for your first error:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314063/
is that pretty much the error you get?


And for what you think is the second one i found this:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/w2kmsgs/1123.asp

Says its hardware related but you havent upgraded it, maybe a driver is faulty or someting like that?
that link applies to win 2000 i see but it may help you, dunno.


One more thing BRO DUDE have you tried any malware scans in safe mode?
I read elsewhere it could be a malware problem even.
There are many possibilites, if it happes again will you look out for the error title and post that, who knows you may actually be able to print screen it i dont know, just a suggestion.

[Random]

I love to hate blue-screens of death, those links fdjc4 gave you are about the best advice/guidence your gonna find.

From experience those errors were a result of faulty hardware, what I did to find out what it was, was remove all my extra prehiperals, untill it eventually stopped.

[STi FlyBy]

BRO DUDE - you did a great job in writing down the error numbers you got. Google (or even the MS site) will be your best friend in just searching based on that error code.

[BRO DUDE]

well i was away for 2 weeks and got back and got another 1 there always different ill have a look at those links and get back 2 ya

[Inquisitor]

lately i have been getting random resets so i turned it to display the blue screen if i get a prob and i have had 2 in the last week
the first was irql_not_less_or_equal
stop: 0x0000000a (etc)

and the otehr 1 i didnt really pay much attention 2 but it was a
stop: 0x00000007 ( i think)

how do i find out what caused it?

i reinstalled XP and formatted not long back and it was all fine then just got them after a month or so.
and havent changed hardware so it cant really be any hardware conflicts can it?

Have you been overclocking your rig at all?

First off I would run Memtest on your memory to make sure its still working ok. But it could just be a simple conflict with a new VGA driver etc.. you have installed lateley. The worst thing about the BSOD it could be 1 of a 1000 things that could be causing the fault :o

[born2phrag]

It is most likely a hardware or driver error. Have your drivers changed since you reformatted? In my experience if the BSOD doesn't go away after a clean install of Windows, then it is a hardware fault.

[BRO DUDE]

no it only started happeneing after i reformatted so i was sorta guessing it was a driver conflict or something along those lines
i ended up disabling both my dvd drives and my tvtuner card and disconected everything but th basics and it had been running for 2 days without a bsod so ill slowly start setting everything up again and c whats starting it

also when i first got the computer and even up until i reformatted and clean install it was running suprisingly fast for a p4 1.6 but now it seems slow and sluggish what can cause that... i know its left wide open but any suggestions

[Inquisitor]

no it only started happeneing after i reformatted so i was sorta guessing it was a driver conflict or something along those lines
i ended up disabling both my dvd drives and my tvtuner card and disconected everything but th basics and it had been running for 2 days without a bsod so ill slowly start setting everything up again and c whats starting it

also when i first got the computer and even up until i reformatted and clean install it was running suprisingly fast for a p4 1.6 but now it seems slow and sluggish what can cause that... i know its left wide open but any suggestions


I would suggest that its the TVTuner card, it proberbly have a conflict with your VGA card or its drivers. From what you have just posted :)

[BRO DUDE]

i was thinking that but im guessing its not as i re enabled my dvd drives and plugged in my printer and then i got another 2 not long after so i dont know if it was coincidence or not
ok i looked up on microsoft and i think the printer driver is causing 1 but there are a few more im trying to sort out

[Inquisitor]

i was thinking that but im guessing its not as i re enabled my dvd drives and plugged in my printer and then i got another 2 not long after so i dont know if it was coincidence or not
ok i looked up on microsoft and i think the printer driver is causing 1 but there are a few more im trying to sort out


Is there any conflicts showing in the device manager at all??? How are you connecting your Printer to the PC?

[BRO DUDE]

no conflicts
connect printer by usb
i dont know what the hell is happening i get bsod all the time lately ive had
0x0000000A
0x000000D1
0x0000008E
and my vet anti virus disabled itself and it wouldnt re enable
and everything has all these problems

[born2phrag]

Could be a virus then, since your AV is getting disabled and not re-enabled.

[fdjc4]

format would probably be the best option at this moment in time

Scanning for malware may come up with sometihng, i don't know for sure.

[BRO DUDE]

yeah i got 1 that said "ipnat.sys" but nothing about it on the windows site
how do i know if i have a via chip set board?

[fdjc4]

Well if you can find out your motherboard then im sure shambles would be able to determine from that.

[BRO DUDE]

update i ran memtest and got 4 errors after doing 100% im guessing thats bad and is whats causing it?

[Inquisitor]

update i ran memtest and got 4 errors after doing 100% im guessing thats bad and is whats causing it?


Did you remeber on what test it failed on?? Its usually test 5 [block move, 64 moves]

Are you overclocking your system? but reset it to its factory defaults in the BIOS anyway and then start memtest again :)

[fdjc4]

Ive a few noob questions here.

How long would it take to perform a memtest?



Off topic but im also curious (and really bored this week) how my pc would do on a 3Dmark test as well, how long does it take approx?

AMD2200XP @ 1890Mhz (5% overclocked)
1 GB RAM (2 x 512)
ATI AIW 9800 PRO 128 MB

[Aivoton]

3dMark usually takes 5-10 minutes.. depending on your specs though.. i cant say the exact time for your system though...

[Inquisitor]

Ive a few noob questions here.

How long would it take to perform a memtest?





Memtest can take upto a few hours to complete.

SirRuben is about right on the time for the Mad Onion ;)

[born2phrag]

Mad Onion? ROFL. It always cracks me up when I hear their old name :grin:

[BRO DUDE]

dont think its overclock i havent touched it anyway
ill try that

i dont know what u mean by what test it was running through it just starts and then gets an error saying word pair#3632436 values 3986994016, 3984896864 do not match
there all the same just different numbers and it stops when it gets an error so i cant leave it running at night


i got a micro star inc ms 6562 motherboard

[Inquisitor]

dont think its overclock i havent touched it anyway
ill try that

i dont know what u mean by what test it was running through it just starts and then gets an error saying word pair#3632436 values 3986994016, 3984896864 do not match
there all the same just different numbers and it stops when it gets an error so i cant leave it running when i go to bed


Dude. let me check my last results in memtest to see about the values and if mine are matched up, as my memory is the same of each stick :)

[BRO DUDE]

well i reset my bios and i didnt have any probs with the memtest it done 3145% with no errors

[Labyrnth]

Some malware camouflage themselves as ipnat.sys, particularly if they are located in c:\windows or c:\windows\system32 folder.


ipnat.sys is located in the folder C:\Windows\System32\drivers.
The driver can be started or stopped from Services in the Control Panel or by other programs. It is a Windows core system file.


Try a new one but disable that one first.

http://www.dynamiclink.nl/htmfiles/rframes/info_sys/info_i/58.htm

[Inquisitor]

well i reset my bios and i didnt have any probs with the memtest it done 3145% with no errors


Ok nice one. Now try running Prime95 stable for 24 hours for the win ;)

[acal3000]

I recently had BSODs too when i tried to update my ATI drivers had to make a driver clean with some program and roll back to the previous driver

[BRO DUDE]

well i havent had a bsod for about a week now so all is good the only thing isa now its on the basic settings in the bios not the performance 1s and that everything its taking its time 2 load
and if i use acdsee to view my images when i close it the windows explorer window flashes like its sort of reset itself

[Inquisitor]

I am pleased that your BSOD is now gone, but it still looks like you have some corruption from Windows, does the error reporting bring back any details???

[fdjc4]

A format would probably clear all your problems dude.

If you do decide to go down that route then backup all your data such as music, work files and even game saves.

It seems your windows is very problematic recently, something could be causing corruption.

[BRO DUDE]

after i done my format and clean install ive had problems so id rather not do it again since ive stopped getting bsod

how do i get the error reporting?

its more things are slow like loading the start bar i click it and wait 2 seconds then it appears and then the next file tree takes 2 seconds instead of instantly