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Punisher2021
11-19-2002, 11:59 AM
Hey guys ,
I was wondering if anyone knows what CD protection Unreal Tournament 2003 uses. And, can you make a working 1:1 copy of Unreal Tournament 2003 without using a CD crack? And, if it is possible, what programs do I need to use to do so? I usually use the latest versions of CloneCD and ClonyXXL to make all my backup copies and I was wondering if I could use those two programs to make a backup 1:1 copy of it without having to use a crack.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

No_FeaR
11-19-2002, 12:18 PM
I dont thinks its possible yet ..

NorthViking
11-19-2002, 03:34 PM
i heard it's not possible yet, it has the new securom protection.

Revelation
11-19-2002, 07:48 PM
Actually, it is now possible to do it, but it requires you use the latest version of Blindwrite Suite. I have read many reports of people having success using this software & making 1:1 copies of new Securom protected titles.

I am personally waiting for the new version of CloneCD to be able to do this. I am a faithful CloneCD user & would rather wait it out...

Punisher2021
11-19-2002, 09:37 PM
Yea ,I was afraid of That .Nolf2 Uses The new secuRom Also .I have heard a few rumors going around about be able to make 1:1 copys of The New SecUrom Games using blind Write and I even talked to a guy who said he did it and he told me the exact settings and it didn't work.I tried every possible setting .The after math was a spindle of 50 cds gone .And know I have 25 copies of Nolf2 which can only be played with the crack.So until The new clone cd comes out ,I don't think its possible .Oh,when is the new clone cd coming out?

Revelation
11-19-2002, 09:45 PM
It IS possible using Blindwrite Suite. It just isn't 'perfected' yet I guess... However, it may also be that some people just can't do it with their 'setup'. Just like before this new Securom. Other protections gave certain people problems. For example:

Until this new Securom, there wasn't any title I could get my hands on that I wasn't able to copy perfectly 1:1. Now, with that being said, I came across others that could not do it, even if they followed the EXACT settings I used. Sometimes that's just the way it is. Could be something as simple as a different piece of hardware, or maybe even firmware version. Who the hell knows!?!

I don't know when the new Clone is coming out. Hopefully soon. I'm sick of having my 'perfect record' tarnished by these damned Securom protected titles. I'm very anal about how my backups work. I HATE that my customers have to use cracks to play them! :mad:

Punisher2021
11-19-2002, 10:41 PM
Yea its the same with me .I have never had aproblem copy any games at all err...I mean making backups ;-D .I am running a 48x Lite onit drive .Will burn anything .

I do alot of DVD to DIVX ripping and I use those 99MIN CDR which are 850mb but i can over burn them to 900mb and my drive does it great and it reads them great to .Awesome dvd image quality on my divx movies when I burn them to 900 mb and stick them on a 99min cdr.*Sigh* I love blockbuster .

NorthViking
11-20-2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by VeNoM386 @ CDFreaks
Here is REAL explanation of what is new Securom.
Latest version of Securom CANNOT be copied on usual media just like other protections of this style (CDCOPS etc.). PERIOD.
Forget about 1:1 copy in a traditional way!
The glass master used to produce original SecuROM disc has unsteady physical parameters along the spiral track containing data sectors. Securom loader verifies these parameters and checks that they are indeed changing along the track which is not the case on your '1:1' copy.
You cannot copy it on usual media because usual CD-R/RW has consistant chacteristics all over the disc (track pitch etc) and its parameters are different than parameters of the master.
It is the same as trying to duplicate $100 note on usual paper - you must have special paper.
Maybe some day new media will appear that will allow to change their characteristics on-the-fly, but not now - so forget about the days when you made 1:1 backups, you will have to use either cracks or emulation.
Even if your copy works by accident from CD-R or usual image - this is because of bugs in protection. It shouldn't!!
DAEMON Tools provides emulation of new Securom by means of additional information in image file that is needed to describe parameters of original media. The only image format that currently allows such information is MDS (but it does not mean it has this info - it is optional). We have provided prepared MDS files for some new Securom games on our site, because no today's dumping program currently is capable to add this info to MDS file automatically - this info was extracted by kind people from original CDs with my own internal tool and added manually to MDS.
If you are sure your game is new Securom and it does not work from virtual drive - contact me for information how to make modified MDS. We can then place it on our site so everybody can use it. Please don't forget to specify the version of game (language), because different versions may have different image sizes.

Revelation
11-20-2002, 01:12 AM
Yes Stridey... But things have changed since that original post. Just as with other USELESS copy protections, this one is being beaten as we 'speak'... :clap:

Punisher2021
11-20-2002, 02:32 AM
Yea Strider I see your point .
I am wondering if it has to do with the dye color on the cds .I usally buy the regular green dye cds .But On the internet I have seen the Silver dye cdr availble which are supossed to be the same cds they use for retail software .So I wwas just wondering if anybody has tried this .Could make a differance who knows.Just a thought .Oh does nybody know any retail store that sell the silver dye cdr's?

Punisher2021
11-20-2002, 02:38 AM
Fear not .
The new version of clone cd will fix everything with that gay SecuRom.So I can make then even more umm *cough* backups of my games.:flame: :flame2: