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Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 12:55 AM
I have just finished building my PC, but when I turn on the power I don't get any picture on my monitor; like it isn't plugged in. (it is by the way). all the fans are working, and LED lights up. the HSF is seated properly, I have the thermal paste on the CPU, every thing is in its place.
I get a red light on at the bottom of the board when I put the power lead in the PSU, then I get a green light next to the red one when I turn on the start button.
I have also taken 1 slot of memory out 7 still no go
Is there a Display jumper on the Mobo that I have to sort out???
AMD 2500+ Barton
Abit NF7-S 2.0 Mobo
2x Twinmos PC3200 DDR
100 gig Seagate HDD
GeForce 3TI 500 (new one on order)
Thermaltake Xaser III 2000A Case
ƒliP_sORRy
05-31-2003, 01:08 AM
Have you tried it with other moniter's ?!
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 01:08 AM
I had the same problem, but it was so stupid, that I don't think it is the same as yours. Anyway, my problem is that the Graph Card wasn't plugged in completely, and the screen remained black.
I think it must be a problem with the Power supply tho, because otherwise you would see something on the screen.
Do you see any jumpers on the MOBE? if so, what jumpers are they?
EDIT: BTW, I had such a problem also when I forgot to plug in the power cable on the motherboard. Just saying it.
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 01:17 AM
There are CMOS jumper of which I have cleared.
The monitor & graphic card was working fine this morning
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 01:21 AM
And is there something written next to these jumpers?
Also, do you hear any bleeps? And do you hear the computer actually run (spinning Hard disk, reading CD-rom drive, etc)?
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 01:28 AM
Yeah, I haven't heard any beeps what so ever, what might be the problem then???
I have a 550w Q-tec PSU
Punisher2021
05-31-2003, 01:31 AM
Yea, do you hear any beeps? Try reseating your Video card and CPU and MEM. Also make sure floppy cable inst backwards. And also replug your monitor cable firmly into the back of the video card.
Also, what is your Mobo Make? Try to set the board to jumperless where you do all the settings through the BIOS. That could be something right there. The jumpers could be set on the baord wrong for what hardware (cpu and mem) you have. So set it to jumperless if possible.
Let me know if any of that does it for ya.
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 01:37 AM
I have changed the video card, re-seated the CPU and Memory, still nothing :(
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 01:38 AM
Found this on google:
Monitor settings are the most likely cause of a blank screen when the PC boots normally otherwise. Other causes can be a problem with the cable connection, monitor, video card, motherboard, processor, or RAM.
Does the CPU cooler actually spin?
Are you sure the RAM is not dead? and (may sound stupid) the CMOS battery?
Punisher2021
05-31-2003, 01:38 AM
Do you hear any beeps?
Check to see that the Cpu fan is spinning and is HOOKED up to CPU fan on the MOBO.
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 01:40 AM
Abit NF7-S V2.0
No beeps
Punisher2021
05-31-2003, 01:42 AM
Ok then its not Monitor lol.Is the Cpu fan plugged into CPU fan power on the mobo and is it spinning?
Also it sounds like it could be the floppy is bad or is hooked up wrong. Make sure you have that right. It will fit either way but there is only one right way.
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 01:44 AM
The CPU is seated corrcetly, with the HSF. all fans are spining fine
Is the monitor DVI or VGA?
It could be the cable, I have had problems with them in the past, just try a new one and see what happens.
Hope this helps
Phil
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 01:47 AM
Hmmm *really wondering what the problem could be*, and the HDD... is the IDE cable of the HDD plugged in with the red wire to the correct side? (the red wire should be oriented to the middle of the back of the HDD, if you see what I mean, but I suppose you knew that :))
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 01:54 AM
its VGA, I had used it on my old PC just a couple of hours ago.
All IDE cables are in and the molex's are fitted correctly.
This thing about not beeping when I start the pc are concerning me. Or could the 2 memory sticks have failed
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 01:59 AM
I think it could be the memory... can't you try them in another PC?
Failing RAM normally gives repeated beeps, but that's only on a bit older systems...
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 02:03 AM
No m8, is there anyway of testing the memory besides putting it in another PC
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 02:11 AM
I know there is such a piece of software that can test the RAM... but I have no idea where to find it. I know someone asked this some time ago on MGF...
you can take a look at www.simmtester.com
The only other solution I see, is to take other memory sticks and thest with these. But you need other mem sticks then :(
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 02:15 AM
OK.
I would like to thank you all for helping me.:clap: :clap:
I'll keep you all informed, and keep those suggestions coming :)
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 02:21 AM
Don't mention it, comrade ;) we're here to help each other.
A good tactic to see what the problem, is to try to boot up with other hardware pieces, but that's easyer said than done... you need to have other hardware pieces.
It's probably a stupid little detail, but they can be most annoying :)
Let us know
Punisher2021
05-31-2003, 02:28 AM
I have the website saved at my house . Softwre based memory testor. Lol but I wont be home for another 3 hours . Still at work.
If the Video card is good sounds to me like its the Memory. 2nd thing would be bad cpu.
What you ought to do is barrow some ddr mem from a friend or buy some from a store then return it. Also, see if you can get ahold of an cpu from afriend or again buy one and return it.
Demonic
05-31-2003, 02:55 AM
Monitor/vidoe card might have a bad connection, check the monitor cable to see if any of the pins are bent ;)
darthllama
05-31-2003, 03:06 AM
The problem is definately your video card. If you are trying to stick a GeForce 3 card in your new board, the card you are using is not AGP 2.0 compliant. The red light means you have insterted a Graphics card that can damage your system. Your video card is a 3.3v only board and you must insert a 1.5v AGP 2.0 or AGP Pro video card in order for it to work (or a 1.5v/3.3v universal.) You are actually quite lucky.. that little red light, just saved your CPU. Asus boards have the same feature.
Get ahold of a newer card, pop it in.. you will post right up. That is your problem for sure.
NorthViking
05-31-2003, 03:13 AM
Brick, try and search @ www.computing.net for more info.
It was a long time since I saw so many replies so fast !!!
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 02:29 PM
I can hear my HDD bootup, my CD-ROm & CR-RW are working fine, the graphic card is fully in place and it has a catch to make sure its in correctly. I have been told that the red light means the power is up, and when the green light comes on it means the system is working.
I had a look with at the CPU and found 1 of the prongs underneath was a little crooked, I straightened it out (carefully) can this be a cause of why I 'm not hearing any beeps when I goto start it up
This may sound odd but try and take it all out and rebuild it, and see what happens.
If you have no joy there, then you have some bad hardware in there somewhere.
To me it sounds like your CPU put a different one in and if that works then you know what the problem is.
Phil
Black Veg
05-31-2003, 02:55 PM
Could be - I once had a problem like that at my friend's home and had to play with the "pins" (Prongs) as u called them after we did that it worked fine (Until he played with it again and broke the prongs)....
Problem is u can cause damage to it ,if u are playing with it (U could break it off like a friend of mine did), so if u are playing with it do it gently.
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 03:09 PM
I think the problem is either the Mobo, or the CPU. Because all the rest seems to work properly
Originally posted by darthllama
The problem is definately your video card. If you are trying to stick a GeForce 3 card in your new board, the card you are using is not AGP 2.0 compliant. The red light means you have insterted a Graphics card that can damage your system. Your video card is a 3.3v only board and you must insert a 1.5v AGP 2.0 or AGP Pro video card in order for it to work (or a 1.5v/3.3v universal.) You are actually quite lucky.. that little red light, just saved your CPU. Asus boards have the same feature.
Get ahold of a newer card, pop it in.. you will post right up. That is your problem for sure.
I have an nf7-s mobo and a gforce 3 ti200 and i dont have any problems with it.
And the red light means there is power going to the board, which is still on even if you turn the PC off but leave the power turned on @ the wall.
Go here to find a weath of information about this board, you will find some helpful stuff here m8 :)
Abit USA Forums (http://forum.abit-usa.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=26)
Hope this helps, also there is a key u press while your PC posts that resets the mobo, cant remember what it is but it tells you in the forum, plus update bios to the latest version, u have board version 2.0 so i think there is 2 bios updates out for it.
Also check to see if the pc speaker connection is connected properly to the mobo ... also chack the rest of them.. the NF7-S is a touchy board, but when u get it running it blows the competition away! the best board out there, the new bios for it makes the fsb go all the way up to 300mhz :D
Hope you get it sorted out :)
Inquisitor
05-31-2003, 08:57 PM
Tone thx m8, you have to press the insert key
I have handed it onver to the Pro's cause what ever it is its smarter than me.
Just like to say again thx for all your replys.
:gwave:
Dr.MAD
05-31-2003, 09:31 PM
You're welcome, comrade ;)
darthllama
06-01-2003, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Tone
I have an nf7-s mobo and a gforce 3 ti200 and i dont have any problems with it.
And the red light means there is power going to the board, which is still on even if you turn the PC off but leave the power turned on @ the wall.
I am sorry, but that is incorrect. The red light is red for a reason (red as in stop) Have you ever known a red light to mean that everything is ok? I have delt with 100 of these boards and I am 100% sure of what I am saying. The red light means that you have inserted an incompatable AGP Card.
The problem isnt the Ti200 or Ti500 chipset, its the PCB board that the chipset is on. Some crap companies (ie: EVGA) will recycle old video boards and place newer model chipsets on those boards. If you have a name brand Ti200, you can put it in any board that you like (it is 3.3v/1.5v univervsal.) If your older card is on an older PCB (3.3v) then it is not compatable with and AGP 2.0 slot. The green light means the system is getting power, the red light means exactly what a red light always means..
STOP
You can spend money on a pro if you like, but i will bet you all the gold in fort knox that he will tell you exactly what I have just said.
Common. there have to be some techs in here.. back me up guys!:p
Inquisitor
06-05-2003, 10:43 PM
***Update
I have my PC back from the experts, and it is now running fine:)
The problem wasn't my graphic's card afterall, and the red light on the mobo is a good sign that there is power supplied to the mobo.
The reason why it wouldn't post, is because there is a censor underneath where the CPU is seated wasn't making any contact.
I'd still be looking now if I hadn't of taken it in:rolleyes:
Glad you got it sorted mate.
Phil
@ Darth ... i am a PC Tech :rolleyes:
BRO DUDE
06-06-2003, 05:07 PM
rofl darthllama so r u wrong now ??
darthllama
06-07-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by KNIGHT RIDER
rofl darthllama so r u wrong now ??
Well apparently so, but this is very strange! I have a friend who has the same mobo and his red light is never on. If the mother board is supposed to have a red light that is always on, then this is a huge design flaw. I do alot of tech work myself, and as a rule, a red light is an error indicator. A red light almost always indicates error. It is simply moronic for them to put a red light on a board that means status ok.
By the way Knight.. im so happy to see that you are happy i was wrong.. excuse the hell out of me for trying to help. At least i offered something!
Tone: I didnt mean to imply that you did not know what you were talking about. Please accept my apologies if it sounded that way.
The bottom line, is i am very glad to see that he got the system running. I hope it performs well, and is trouble free from now on. Enjoy it man!!
BRO DUDE
06-07-2003, 11:49 PM
im only "happy"(as u call it) that ur wrong cos u told tone I am sorry, but that is incorrect.he was wrong when he was right :P
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